15 Minutes With Jesus
- Wherever two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Greetings in the name of Jesus! This is Rob Haymes. This is 15 Minutes With Jesus. Today is Part 2 of Brother Dave Testifies:
Rob: I’m reminded, Dave, of something you said the other night. You said, there are three kinds of “Saved”. Would you like to talk about that?
Dave: Amen. There are three kinds of “Saved”: There’s “Saved”; there’s “Being saved”, and there’s “Shall be saved”. “Saved” is when you receive the Lord. You are born of God; your spirit is saved. That’s justification, the gift of righteousness. That’s what justification is: it’s righteousness. You receive that when you are saved. You believe that Jesus was crucified for your sins; He died for your sins, and you believe God raised Him from the dead. When God raised Him from the dead He gave you Jesus’ righteousness. He gave you the gift of His righteousness. That’s half of the Gospel. The first half of the Gospel is that Jesus was crucified. That’s why Paul said, …Jesus Christ and Him crucified.. He was crucified for your sins, and you believe that in your heart; you receive it in your heart: it’s grace! That Gospel is grace; it’s a gift. It’s revealed to you by the Holy Spirit; the Father reveals it to you by the Spirit; you receive it in your heart, with your faith. And then, you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and you shall be saved. And then, God the Father, by the power of the Holy Spirit, raised Him from the dead: that’s the other part of the Gospel; that’s what makes you righteous: you have received His righteousness, and so you have no more need of the Law. Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness for everyone who believes; that’s the end of your need for the Law. That’s “Saved; that’s justification. Then, “Being saved”, being saved is sanctification, and that’s a process: you’re more, and more, and more, over time, being conformed to the image of His Son; you’re changing. The scripture says, They have no changes, therefore they fear not God. You’re fearing God, and you’re changing, and Jesus is converting you: you’re being converted, spirit, soul, and body to Christ, more and more, and that’s sanctification. The end, Jesus said, Keep my works till the end, well, the end is redemption. That’s “Shall be saved” : we shall be saved. We’re saved, we’re being saved, and we shall be saved. So at the end, if you keep His works till the end, at the end, it’s redemption. When He comes again, He redeems His people, at the very end, all His people are redeemed, and that’s your final salvation: when we’re redeemed from the Earth- the Rapture. Whatever people are already there with Jesus: absent from the body and present with the Lord; they’re going to come back with Him, and that Rapture is going to be the redemption of everybody in Christ that’s on the Earth: “Saved”, “Being saved”, and “Shall be saved”.
There’s also three faiths! There’s three faiths. There’s “Your faith”, there’s “The faith”, and then there’s the gift of faith. “Your faith” is: with the heart man believes unto righteousness. With the heart man believes unto righteousness. That’s “Your faith”. According to your faith be it done unto you, Jesus said. That’s “Your faith”. And then there’s “The faith”. That’s all things that are most certainly believed among us. Luke 1:1, …a declaration of those things which are most certainly believed among us. That’s everything that Christians believe: that’s “The faith”. The faith: The Son of God loved us and gave Himself for us. Then there’s the gift of faith; that’s a gift of the Holy Spirit. God, by the power of the Holy Spirit gives you, I just say it like this: you’re believing with all the faith you have, and then you just need a little boost to get over the top, that’s what the gift of faith is. It can be other things too: He can just come in and just do it; it will blow your mind sometimes, what God does. You’re not even trying to believe, and it just gets done: He just gets it done. Why? It’s His will being done. Amen. That’s the gift of faith. Amen.
You know, you’re not a threat to the Devil until you really get the Holy Spirit-get baptized in the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues. That’s when you become a threat to the Devil. And he will pursue you. He has spirits, some of them are called familiar spirits, and they’re watching over you; they’re watching your every move. You’re a threat to them. You’re their enemy. The Devil is in a war. You may not even be thinking about a war, but I’ll guarantee you the Devil is in a war, and he’s full-blast in it. He’s the general, and he’s not playing. His idea is for you to be dead and in Hell. That’s all he’s thinking about; he’s pursuing that with all his might. And his servants are after that. They want you sinning. You know, if a demon cannot get you to sin, he’s a looser of a demon. His job isn’t just to pester you and make you feel bad. That’s what the tempter is doing, full time on those who have the Spirit. When you receive the baptism in the Holy Spirit, it opens up the unseen kingdom. That’s what it means when you say, “in the spirit”, it’s unseen: the unseen realm. That’s what evil spirits are: they’re unseen spirits in the unseen realm. There’s rulers. There’s spiritual wickedness in seats. Ok, they’re out there, and they’re going to hinder you. They’re sent to pursue you, and what are they going to pursue you with? They’re going to pursue you with lies. They’re going to attack you emotionally, physically, spiritually, with lies, attacking your mind. They’ll try to fill you with darkness through images and words; they’re constantly doing that to try to hinder you; to try to hinder the Word of God from being established in your heart; in your spirit. When that Word gets established it will come out of your mouth, and everything those spirits can do to try to keep that Word from coming out of your mouth they will do. That’s what fear is about, and unbelief is about: everything that is in your soul that is hindering that Word from coming from your spirit out into the world is what the Devil is after. He’s trying to stop that, any way he can. He’s moving in that constantly; that’s what he’s warring in. It says the battle is in the mind, so, it’s in your mind; it’s in your flesh; trying to stop that Word of God with the Holy Spirit sent from Heaven, to stop that from coming forth into the world, and being manifest in the world, and ministering to the hearts of other people, and growing and establishing the Kingdom of God in the hearts of others. So, that’s his plan.
Rob: I’m reminded of a scripture, Rev 12:11, And they overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Dave: Amen, amen. So, what I was going to say is, how are these things ministered to people? Well, first it’s lies, and then strongholds and the strong man. Then you have spiritual wickedness in seats: the rulers of the darkness of this world and the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience, and it goes all the way to the Devil: the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience.The very first thing here is lies. In the scripture it says that a spirit came before God and said he would be a lying spirit in the mouth of all of Ahab’s prophets. So one spirit can come and put lies in the mouth of, in that case, 400 false prophets. One spirit did that. These spirits are speaking words through these seats. The Devil wants a seat. He’s looking for a seat. He’s not looking to be on the back row somewhere. He wants to be the governor. He wants to be the president. He wants to be the preacher. He wants to be somewhere where he can exercise his power with as many people as he can. The Bible calls this spiritual wickedness in high places. He will use people to do that. People will have these rulers in them. Everywhere I’ve gone I’ve had people that hindered me, and came against me and were my enemies. I’m not talking about in the world, I’m talking about in churches. Every church I’ve ever been in there were people that hindered me, and that resisted me and fought with me. This happened before I ever had any kind of a seat or position. The Devil knows who you are, and he has people that he has strongholds in; some of them are even rulers, and they have strong men working through them, trying themselves to get a seat, or, if they already have a seat, they are trying to keep anyone else, the brethren, the true brethren, from having any seat in that place. So God taught me to look and see who is in the seats: when you go into a church, find out who is in the seats and you’ll understand a lot more about what is actually working there.
Rob: So, we are in a war, and we need to fight the good fight of faith. We need to believe that Jesus Christ has given us the victory. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the Devil. Because He humbled Himself to the death of the Cross, the Father has given Him a name above every name, that, at the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, every knee shall bow, in Heaven, on the Earth, and under the Earth, and every tongue shall confess that He is Lord. Thanks be to God who has given us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ, and manifests through us the sweet savor of His knowledge in every place. No weapon formed against us shall prosper. Every tongue raised against us in judgment we shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of Me , says the Lord. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness, and translated us into the Kingdom of His dear Son, in whom we have redemption through His Blood, the forgiveness of sins. Remember: They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; building ourselves up on our most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit; keeping ourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Now unto Him who is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever, Amen!